tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2106815346229702986.post628975724723887236..comments2024-03-21T00:17:37.281-07:00Comments on sherapop's salon de parfum: Of Tastemakers and TangoUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2106815346229702986.post-62855320739758592682012-06-26T07:01:35.323-07:002012-06-26T07:01:35.323-07:00Hello, your foxiness, very nice to read you here a...Hello, your foxiness, very nice to read you here again!<br /><br />Yes, I see the parallel between early rock music and what followed it, influenced in part (or a great deal) by the advent of MTV...<br /><br />As far as perfume is concerned, I think that we may have entered a period of two worlds: one in which there are widely advertised mass market launches of vat-produced sweet laundry scents for the one-bottle-at-a-time consumer; the other in which a subculture of aficionados seek to expand their olfactory horizons and pursue obscure and creative perfumes offered by small independent houses. <br /><br />The two worlds are similar in some ways to the situation which obtains in the tea and coffee markets, it seems to me. I'll post on that topic soon...<br /><br />Thank you again for stopping by!sherapophttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14116821928196122529noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2106815346229702986.post-77510567233416599212012-06-24T21:29:44.179-07:002012-06-24T21:29:44.179-07:00another great read! I feel like I'm coming to ...another great read! I feel like I'm coming to perfumery in the same time as in the last few years of good rock music, before making money was making music, & everything became diluted down into a bland soup and fed en masse to the timid, eager public! I refuse to let myself be uneducated, and consume such swill. cheers! to the houses that don't compromise, enjoy their controversy, and keep perfume an art. and may the beauties of old always live on in memory, where they will shine the brightest.. ! (all beauty must die- Nick cave)yourfoxinesshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18218936029929969134noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2106815346229702986.post-47913819355560669212012-06-24T09:54:34.619-07:002012-06-24T09:54:34.619-07:00Liebe Girasole,
Thank you for shining the bright ...Liebe Girasole,<br /><br />Thank you for shining the bright light of your intellect here once again! Your post is bursting with ideas! <br /><br />When I posed the question "Which would you choose?" I was actually thinking among the perfumes in each coffret. But you are right: why should we find ourselves in the position of owning either of these coffrets in the first place?! Stimmt!<br /><br />I cannot believe that you have managed to pinpoint precisely what I find most repugnant about The Holey [sic] Book. Yes, it's the tyrannical bullying: the suggestion that those who do not please the authors are wrong and those who disagree are wrong as well. I'm all for incisive criticism, but I feel that the authors' pseudocriticism is no more and no less than the vacuous emotive expression of their idiosyncratic dislikes. I have a big problem with authoritarianism in general, so you have nailed it. I have an equally big problem with charlatanism and fraud. Actually, I think that what bothers me is the conjunction of rampant falsehoods (they did no fact-checking whatsoever, it appears) and the charlatanism of fobbing off their personal opinions as aesthetic expertise. And then there's the fact that they do so much shilling. Here's what they say about Estée Lauder Beautiful:<br /><br />“Beautiful (Estée Lauder) **** classic rose<br />It is. With Bernard Chant (Cabochard) and Max Gavarry (Dioressence) contributing to its creation, this rich, tobacco-tinged rose from 1985 has a classic profile. You can smell, underneath the very eighties intense sweetness (YSL Paris uses a similar powdery, liqueur-like rose), a mossy chypre base of more depth and complexity than usual, pairing sweet amber with an intensely vegetal green. But it also has a very modern feel, with a bright herbal, woody radiance that broadcasts an attractive low hum all around. This said, it smells unfortunately dated, the way many things from the eighties smell dated now: heavier and less legible than current frgrances, but with up-to-the moment synthetics preventing it from smelling older. Someday it may smell fresh again. TS”<br /><br />What a mess! Is Beautiful beautiful or is Beautiful not beautiful? Is it modern or dated? How, pray tell, do the authors know about these up-to-the-moment synthetics used in the reformulated composition? Isn't this just a marketing text? Someone ignorant person who flips through The Holey [Book] and reads the first two words of this “review” buys this perfume. Don't they?<br /> <br />Anyway, I'm definitely going to take a look at the sources you mention... Vielen Dank!<br /><br />I agree that there are good authorities, whose advice is worth seeking out. When apparent authorities start shilling for products, that's when I stop listening to what they have to say.<br /><br />Thank you again for sharing your thoughts, Girasole!sherapophttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14116821928196122529noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2106815346229702986.post-40124366205814126302012-06-24T04:19:55.252-07:002012-06-24T04:19:55.252-07:00Hi Sherapop, thanks for your blog entry and I'...Hi Sherapop, thanks for your blog entry and I'd choose none of the two sets. Just say no when the choices that are offered are not what you really want. Thanks also for pointing out the "Beautiful" cycle of a selffullfilling prophecy or in science: how the result of an experiment is miraculously precisely what the scientist expected.<br /><br />Authority is a word that has many meanings. In social science, political science, and psychology there is a thing called autoritärer Charakter / Persönlichkeit (authoritarian personality). People such as Reich, Fromm, and Adorno (to name the most prominent) came up with this. You might want to check out the following Wikipedia entries as they offer a quick overview (and have a reading list added for further investigation into the matter): in German "Autoritärer Charakter", "Autoritäre Persönlichkeit"; in English "Authoritarian personality". Also please take into consideration that when we speak of an "authoritarian state" we mean dictatorship.<br /><br />I think that Luca Turin's aggressive style of communicating in his books is very diffrent from, say, how parents tell their 3year old that it is absolutely necessary to wear warm clothes in a Midwest winter. <br /><br />There's also "good authority". There are people who have invested much thinking and time into a special field and thus have something to say. It would be very ignorant not to listen to them. But these authorities don't have to depreciate others. They don't have to shout profanities. They don't make others feel bad/scared/worthless/insecure/inferior. They respect others. And what's most important: They will allow dissent. You can contradict them and they will not punish or depreciate or ostracize you. Why? Simple: They are interested in their special field, sharing their knowledge and want to learn more. They'll argue but they can also agree on disagreeing. They'll meet you as their equal on the same level. They don't want to dominate you. They'll explain their point of view. They are not looking for followers that do as they tell them.<br /><br />I agree with you: human beings are fragile and precious. We are individuals but at the same time we need to form communities. You already mentioned Aristotle: Only animals and half-gods can survive outside society, according to his Politeia.. Or in other words: Meine Freiheit endet da, wo deine Unfreiheit beginnt.<br /><br />Mahora: In the city where I live they've recently torn down an office building that was designed by a famous architect. This building was a point of reference in the 80's for this type of building. But it has become dysfunctional over the course of time. Working conditions have completely changed.<br />So long, Girasole.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com